"There are workers who work for one boss in the morning and for another boss at night."

On the afternoon of May 27, after the National Assembly discussed a number of controversial contents of the draft Law on Social Insurance (amended), Minister of Labor, War Invalids and Social Affairs Dao Ngoc Dung spoke to explain and accept the opinions raised by National Assembly deputies.

To have a salary and health insurance when retired

On behalf of the drafting agency, Minister Dao Ngoc Dung thanked the delegates for their enthusiastic comments and contributions of many important contents; the drafting agency will coordinate with the reviewing agency to fully absorb the opinions and submit them to the National Assembly Standing Committee.

The Minister affirmed that social insurance in Vietnam is still very young (only 29 years old) while in other countries in the world, this policy has been implemented for several hundred years. However, Vietnam has 8/9 types of social insurance, basically well developed and in line with international practices.

According to Mr. Dung, that result is thanks to the attention and participation of the entire political system, the close and effective leadership and direction of the locality; the support of the people and employers; the efforts of the cadres and employees of the social insurance system...

Dialogue - — Minister of Labor, War Invalids and Social Affairs Dao Ngoc Dung.

Regarding the one-time social insurance benefits, Minister Dao Ngoc Dung said that this is the most sensitive issue in this law and also the most complicated issue to handle. The political foundation is very solid, which is Resolution 28 of the Central Committee, and this content has been discussed in two sessions of the National Assembly. The biggest goal when designing this is to achieve the goal of ensuring long-term social security, so that when the elderly retire, they will have a salary and health insurance.

The second is to care about the current real life of workers, because a part of workers want to withdraw from social insurance. The reason is not entirely due to economic difficulties, each person has different circumstances, there are cases where they withdraw and then want to participate again.

According to Mr. Dung, this provision does not exist in the laws of other countries. The design of this law comes from the needs of workers. Resolution 93 was issued when the Social Insurance Law 2014 had not yet taken effect. But now Resolution 93 cannot be abandoned because of the consequences that arise. Therefore, maintain but calculate to achieve the above two goals.

The government has proposed two options and consulted with international organizations many times, organized seminars, and exchanged research. There are opinions suggesting integrating the two options, with those who are currently paying continuing to enjoy the same policy as option 1, and those who pay later enjoying option 2. However, experts believe that if the two options are combined, the disadvantages outweigh the advantages.

Therefore, on May 25, the Government continued to give opinions on this issue and found that there was no other option, so it continued to submit to the Standing Committee of the National Assembly to propose that the National Assembly choose one of two options.

Since the 6th session, the review and drafting agency has widely consulted with the affected subjects. "I have read 5 reports from 5 localities with the highest rate of one-time insurance withdrawals, especially in the South and the Southeast region, and I see that the vast majority of opinions choose option 1. I see very few people propose option 2. Most workers propose option 1," said Mr. Dung.

Along with that, Mr. Dung said he highly agreed that in order to limit the one-time withdrawal of social insurance, there should be other supporting policies, such as credit and loan policies... This policy must definitely be available, but this supporting policy cannot be included in the insurance law but must be included in other laws and regulations.

The labor market is changing rapidly.

The second issue is related to the group of opinions proposing to increase policies on maternity, sickness... which are very appropriate, appropriate, realistic, in line with needs and need to be acknowledged.

However, according to Mr. Dung, during the drafting process of the law, we have introduced many more advanced policies, many better policies than the Social Insurance Law of 2014. If we continue to increase the maternity sickness fund, the current budget cannot be guaranteed. Therefore, in the immediate period, it is necessary to ensure harmony between policies, benefits and the fund's balance, between spending and revenue.

Explaining the content related to expanding the subjects participating in compulsory social insurance, the Minister said that Resolution 28 clearly stated that we should strive towards universal, multi-layered social insurance. Resolution 42 also stated that by 2030, the coverage would be 60%, so expanding social insurance is inevitable.

The Minister suggested that for those subjects that are clear and qualified, we should immediately stipulate them in this law. For those who are individual business households, through consultation, it was found that participating in compulsory insurance is appropriate.

"Moreover, in a flexible and rapidly changing labor market, one can do one job today and another tomorrow. A person has many different labor relationships, working for one boss in the morning but working for another boss or another business in the evening," Mr. Dung said, adding that the proposal to delegate the authority to the National Assembly Standing Committee to regulate this is more appropriate and flexible.

Regarding the delegates' concerns about why the concept of the lowest pension level was removed, the Minister said that the lowest pension level in the recent past was only correct for a certain period.

In the future, when expanding coverage, even if the lowest pension level is abolished, it does not mean that there will be no more people participating in insurance at a level lower than the salary. The lowest pension level is currently taken at the basic salary level, but if kept as it is, a series of people will not be able to participate. Because then they will not be eligible to participate with the minimum salary, so why not give a lower level so that they can participate according to the principle of low contribution, low benefit, with health insurance.

Regarding salary reform, Mr. Dung said that salary reform has been in preparation for more than 20 years. "The most difficult thing about salary reform is not having money. This time, we have money, I am very happy with the figure of 680,000 billion VND reported to the National Assembly. Salary reform is clearly necessary and urgent at present. However, this is a new issue, a complicated issue because the core is paying salary according to job position," Mr. Dung said.

According to Mr. Dung, if you want to pay salary based on job position, you must determine the job position. In which, the job position has 3 characteristics such as stability, long-term and regularity.

Regarding salary reform, the Minister said that he only proposed a reference level to replace the basic salary. The reference level is essentially calculated based on economic growth or revenue and expenditure. Although the reference level replaces the basic salary, there is no problem in essence .

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